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head over to facebook.com/seanhannity and let us know what you think. that is all the time we have tonight but thank you for being with us we hope >> welcome to our special look back at the address to a joint meeting of congress by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the israeli leader urging lawmakers trying to stop president obama from making what he called a bad deal with iran that could allow it to develop a nuclear weapon. joining me with analysis are a foreign policy magazine associate and associate editor of "the hill" and syndicated minister charles crowdhammer. [applause].
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>> this is not a state of the union, but it is looking like that. he makes the walk in and we know there haven't been lawmakers poised for that many hours as we see the state of the union. but they are still lining up there to shake the hand of the israeli prime minister. back with the panel for netanyahu, arguably this is a huge speech. >> he has dedicated the years of his prime minister ship to the second go around. he was prime minister in the 90s . it is the most important one of his prime minister ship and of his country. remember who he is. his was a great -- his father was a great historian. his older brother jonathon, lead and died in the raid in
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uganda. he himself was a commando. he knows this is the greatest threat to the state of israel in the 70 years of its existence. he knows that history for whatever reason has chosen him to be the one to try to save israel in this circumstance. and that's why he thinks and he is risking a lot. he is risking his relationship with the united states. risking the prime minister ship. this is probably hurting him in israel because he knows he has to make the case and he wants israel to hear what is wrong with it before it is produced and he will have lost. >> you can see harry reid and patty murray next to him and shaking hands. the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy are walking in behind the prime minister. for these politicians who are there this is also a big
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deal. >> it is a big deal and this is historic. this is the third time before the congress but the situation has never been as tense as now. this speech was scheduled to be more than a month earlier and it is bumping up against the elections. polls show in israel it is affecting the debate there. i will add though in what i believe is a mistake for democrats to actually boycott this speech. two wrongs don't make a right. he was asked by senator dianne feinstein and dick durbin to meet privately. he should have lobbied for a policy and that was a missed opportunity. >> john scott usually has this hour and he will be along as soon as this speech ends. we just saw elly the holocaust survivor. it goes back a little.
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>> it was in the shadow of the holocaust. that was central to the jewish people, and there is no better person to do that. >> let's listen in to netanyahu. >> presenting to you the prime minister of israel, his excellence see, benjamin netanyahu. [applause]. >> speaker of the house, john boehner president pro tem orrin hatch, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell
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house minority leader nancy pelosi and house majority leader kevin mccarthy. i also want to acknowledge senator democratic leader harry reid. harry, it is good to see you back on your feet. [applause]. i guess it is true what they say. you can't keep a good man down. my friends, i am deeply humbled by the opportunity to speak for a third time before the most important legislative body in the world the u.s. congress. [applause].
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i want to thank you all for being here today. i know that my speech has been the subject of much controversy. i deeply regret that some perceive my being here as political. that was never my intention. i want to thank you democrats and republicans for your common support for israel year after year decade after decade. [applause]. >> i know that no matter which side of the aisle you sit you stand with israel.
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[applause]. the remarkable appliance between israel and the united states has always been about politics, must always remain about politics. [applause]. because america and israel we share a common destiny. the destiny of promise lands that cherish freedom and offer hope. israel is grateful for the support of american -- of america's people and of america's presidents from harry truman to barack obama. [applause].
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we appreciate all that president obama has done for israel. now some of that is widely known . [applause]. some of that is widely known like strengthening the security corporation and intelligence sharing opposing anti-israel resolutions at the u.n. some of what the president has done for israel is less well known. i called him in 2010 and he immediately agreed to respond to my request for urgent aid. in 2011 we had our embassy in cairo under siege and again he provided vital assistance in the crucial moment. or his support for more missal
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intercepters during our operation last summer when we took on hamas terrorists. [applause]. and each of those moments, i call the president and he was there. and some of what the president has done for israel might never be known because it touches on some of the most sensitive and strategic issues that arise between an american president and an israeli prime minister. but i know it and i will always be grateful to president obama for that support. >> [applause]. and israel is grateful to you the american congress for your
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support, for supporting us in so many ways especially in generous military assistance and missal defense including iron dome. last summer millions of israelis were protected from thousands of hamas rockets because this capitol dome helped build our iron dome. [applause]. thank you, america. thank you for everything you've done for israel. my friends, i have come here today because as prime minister of israel i feel a profound obligation to speak
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to you about an issue that could threaten the survival of my country and the future of my people. iran's quest for nuclear weapons . we are an ancient people. in our no nearly 4000 years of history many tried repeatedly to destroy the jewish people. tomorrow night on the jewish holiday of purim. we will read about a man who plotted to destroy the jewish people some 2500 years ago. but a courageous jewish woman, queen esther exposed the plot and gave the jewish people the right to defend themselves against their enemies. the plot was foiled and our people were saved.
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today the jewish people face another attempt by yet another persian to destroy us. iran's supreme leader spews the oldest hatred of anti-semitism with the newest technology. he tweets that israel must be annihilated. he tweets. in iran there isn't exactly free internet, but he tweets in english that israel must be destroyed. for those who believe that iran threat tens the jewish state, but not the jewish people listen to the leader
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of these -- of these -- these bow law, the chief proxy. he said "if all of the jews gather in israel, it will save us the trouble of chasing them down around the world. " but iran's regime is no more of a problem, no more than the nazi regime. the six million jews murdered by the nazis were a traction of the people killed in world war ii. so too iran's regime poses a great threat not only to israel, but to the peace of the entire world. to understand how dangerous iran would be with nuclear weapons we must fully understand the nature of the regime. the people of iran are very talented people. they are heirs to one of the
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world's great civilizations. in 1979 they were hijacked by religious zelits who imposed on them a dark and brutal dictator ship. that year the zelits drafted a constitution a new one for iran. it directed the revolutionary guards not only to protect iran's borders, but to fulfill the i'd logical mission of jihad. the regime's founder ayatollah co may knee, told them to export the revolution throughout the world. i am standing here in washington, d.c. and the difference is so stark. america's founding document promises life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. iran's founding document pledges death, tear raw knee and the pursuit of jihad. the states are collapsing across the middle east. iran is charging into the void to do just that.
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iran's goons in gaza lakey's in lebenon and revolutionary guards on the golan heights are clutching israel with three tenticles of terror. backed by iran they are slaughtering syrians. backed by iran, shiite militias are rampaging through iraq. backed by iran, they are seizing control of strategic straits at the mouth of the red sea. that would give iran a second choke point on the world's oil supply. just last week iran carried out a military exercise blowing up a mock u.s. aircraft carrier. that's just last week while they are having nuclear talks with the united states. but unfortunately for the last 36 years iran's attacks against the united states have been anything but mock.
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the targets have been all too real. iran took dozens of americans hostage and murdered hundreds of american soldiers marines in beirut and responsible for killing and maiming thousands of american servicemen and women in iraq and afghanistan. beyond the middle east iran attacks america and its allies through the global terror network. it blew up the jewish community center and the israeli embassy in by buenos aires. it even attempted to assassinate the saudi ambassador right here in washington, d.c. in the middle east iran now dominates four arab capitals baghdad, damascus, beirut and sana. if iran's aggression is left unchecked more will surely follow. so at a time when many home
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that eye -- hope that iran will join the community of nations iran is busy gobbling up the nations. >> we must all stand together to stop iran's march of conquest sub -- subjugation and terror. [applause]. >> now two years ago we were told to give the foreign minister a chance to bring change and moderation to iran. some change. some moderation.
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they persecute rise commons -- christians and jailed journalists and execute even more prisoners than before. last year they laid a wreath it is a terrorist mastermind who spilled more american blood than any other terrorist besides osama bin laden. i would like to see someone ask a question about that. iran's regime is as radical as ever. it cries death to america it. it is as loud as ever. it is deeply rooted in militant islam and that's why this regime will always be an enemy of america.
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the battle between iran and isis doesn't turn iran into a friend of america. iran and isis are competing for the crown of mill tapet islam. militant islam. one called it the islamic republic and one the islamic state. both want to impose a militant empire. first on the region and then on the entire world. they just disagree among themselves who will be the ruler of that empire. in this deadly game of throwns there is no place for america or for israel. there is no peace for christians jews or muslims who don't share the islamist midevil creed. no rights for women and no freedom for anyone. when it comes to iran and isis the enemy of your enemy is your enemy.
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>> the difference is isis has butcher knives and captured weapons and youtube whereas iran could soon be loaded nuclear bombs. we must always remember, i will say it one more time, the greatest danger facing our world is the marriage of mill tapet islam to weapons. to let iran get the weapons would be to win the battle, but lose the war. we can't let that happen.
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>> but that my friends is exactly what could happen if the deal now being negotiated is accepted by iran. that deal will not prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons. it would all but guarantee that iran gets those weapons lots of them. let me explain why. while the final deal has not yet been signed, certain elements of any potential deal are now a matter of public record.e you don't need intelligence agencies and secret information to know this. you can google it. absent the dramatic change. we know for sure that any deal with iran will include two
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major concessions to iran. the first major concession would leave iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure providing it with a short break out time. the break out time is the time it takes to uh mass enough weapons grade uranium or plutonium for a bomb. according to the deal not a single nuclear facility would be demolished. thousands of center fiewjs used to enrich uranium would be left spinning and thousands more would be temporarily disconnected and not destroyed. because iran's nuclear program would be left largely in tact, iran's break out time would be very short. a year by u.s. assessment and shorter by israel. and if iran's work on advanced centrifuges is not stopped that breakout time could still
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be shorter, a lot shorter. true certain restrictions would be imposed. iran's adherence to the restrictions would be supervised by interest fall inspectors. but here is the problem. you see inspectors document violations. they don't stop them. inspectors knew when authority korea broke through the bomb. it dent stop anything. north korea turned off the cameras and kicked out the inspectors. within a few years it got the bomb. now we are are warned that within five years north korea could have an arsenal of 100 nuclear bombs. like north korea, iran too has defied international inspectors. it has done that on three occasions. 2005 2006 and 2010. like north tory yaw, iran broke -- north korea, they turned off the cameras.
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i know it will not come as a shock, but they not only defy inspectors, but it plays a good game of hide and cheat with them. the -- they said again yesterday that iran still refuses to come clean about the military nuclear program. iran was also caught twice, not once but twice and operated secret nuclear facilityies. facilits in specters didn't even know existed. right now iran could be hiding nuclear facilities that we don't know about the u.s. and israel. as the former head of inspections said in 2013 he said if there is no undeclared installation today in iran, it will be the first time in 20 years that he doesn't have one.
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iran has proven time and again that it cannot be trusted. that's why the first major concession is a source of concern. it leaves iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure and relies on inspectors to prevent a break out. it creates a real danger that iran could get to the bomb by violating the deal. the second major concession creates an even greater danger, that sigh ran could get to the bomb by keeping the deal. because virtually all the restrictions on iran's nuclear program will exprior in about a decade. now a decade may seem like a longtime in political life but it is a blink of an eye in the eye of a nation. it is a blink of an eye in the life of our children. we all have a responsibility to consider what will happen when iran's nuclear
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capabilities are unrestricted and all the sanctions will have been lifted. iran would be free to build a huge nuclear capacity that would produce many, many nuclear bombs. the supreme leader happened openly. they plan to have 190,000 centrifuges. not 6,000 or even the 19,000 iran has today, but 10 times that amount of the 190,000 center fiewjs. with this massive capacity iran could make the fuel for an entire nuclear arsenal and this in a matter of weeks once it makes that decision. my long-time friend john kerry secretary of state confirmed last week that iran could legitimately possess the capacity when the deal expires. i want you to think about that.
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the foremost sponsor of global terrorism could be weeks away fromming a enough enriched -- from having enough enriched uranium for nuclear weapons and this with full national legitimacy. and by the way, if iran's inter continental missal ballistics program is not part of the deal and iran refuses to even put it on the negotiating table iran could have the means to deliver that nuclear arsenal to the far corners of the earth including to every part of the united states. >> so you see my friends this deal has two major concessions. one leaving iran with a vast nuclear program. and two lifting the restrictions on that program in a decade. that's why this deal is so
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bad. it doesn't block iran's path to the bomb, it paves the path to the bomb. so why would anyone make this deal? they hope they would change for the better in the coming years or they believe that the alternative to this deal is worse. well i disagree. i i don't believe the radical regime will change for the better after this deal. it has been in power for 36 years and the voracious appetite grows with each passing year. the deal would only wet iran's appetite for more. would iran be less aggressive when sanctions are removed and its economy is stronger? if iran is gobbling up four countries right now while it is under sanctions, how many more countries will iran devour when sanctions are lifted?
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would iran fund left terrorism when it has funding for more terrorism? why should iran's radical regime change for the better when it can enjoy the best of both worlds, aggression abroad, pros spear tee at home. >> this is a question that anyone ask in our region. israel's neighbors know they will sponsor more terrorism and it was given a clear path to the bomb. many of these neighbors say they will respond by racing to get nuclear weapons of their own. it will only change the middle east for the worst. a deal that is supposed to prevent proliferation would instead spark a nuclear arms
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race in the most dangerous planet. this deal won't be a farewell to arms. it will be a farewell to arms control. the middle east will have nuclear trip wires. small skirmishes can trigger big wars and turn into a tinderbox. if finish thinks this deal kicks the can down the road think again. when we get down that road we will face a much more dangerous iran a middle east littered with nuclear bombs and a countdown to a potential fluke clear nightmare. nuclear nightmare. ladies and gentlemen, i have come here today to tell you we don't have to bet the security of the world on the hope that iran will change for the better.
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we don't have to gamble with our future and with our children's future. we can insist that restrictions on iran's nuclear program not be listed for as long as iran continues its aggression in the region and in the world [applause]. >> before lifting the restrictions the world should demand that iran do three things first stop its aggression against its neighbors against the middle east. second, [applause].
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second stop supporting terrorism around the world. [applause]. >> and third stop threatening to annihilate my country israel the one and only jewish state. [applause]. >> if the world powers are not insisting they change their
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behavior before a deal is signed, at the very least they should insist iran change its behavior before a deal expires. if iran changes its behavior, the restrictions would be lifted. if iran does president change its behavior the restrictions should not be lifted. if iran wants to be treated like a normal country, let it act like a normal country. [applause]. my friends what about the argument that there is no alternative to this deal? that iran's nuclear know how
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cannot be erased? that its nuclear program is so advanced that the best we can do is delay the inevitable which is essentially what the proposed deal seeks to do. well nuclear know how without nuclear infrastructure doesn't get you very much. a race car driver without a car can't drive. a pilot without a plane can't fly. without thousands of centrifuges and tons of enriched uranium iran can't make nuclear weapons. iran's nuclear program can be rolled back well beyond the current proposal by insisting on a better deal and keeping up the pressure on a very, vulnerable regime especially given the recent collapse and the price of oil. [applause].
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if iran threatens to walk away from the table and this often happens in a persian bazaar, call their bluff. they need the deal a lot more than you do. [uh uh-huh plus [. and by maintaining the pressure on iran and by those who do business with iran you have the power to make them need it even more. my friends for over a year we have been told that no deal is better than a bad deal well this is a bad deal. it is a very bad deal. we are better off without it. [applause].
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>> now we are being told that the only alternative to this bad deal is war, that's just not true. th alternative to this deal is a much better deal. [applause]. a better deal that doesn't leave iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure and such a short break out time. a better deal that keeps the restrictions on iran's nuclear program in place until iran's aggression ends.
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a better deal that won't give iran an easy path to the bomb a better deal that israel and its neighbors may not like and which they could live, literally. and no country has a greater stake than israel in the good deal that peacefully removes the threat. ladies and gentlemen, history has placed us at a fateful crossroads. we must now choose between two paths. one path leads to a bad deal that will at lest curtail the nuclear ambitions for awhile. but it will lead to a nuclear armed iran whose unbridled aggression will inevitably lead to war. the second path however difficult could lead to a much
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better deal that would prevent a nuclear armed iran and the horrific consequences of both to all of humanity. you don't have to read robert frost to know. you have to live life. to know that the difficult path is usually the one less traveled, but it will make all of the difference for the future of my country, the security of the middle east and the peace of the world the peace we all desire. [applause]. >> my friend, standing up to iran is not easy.
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standing up to dark and murderous regimes never is. with us today is holocaust survivor and nobel prize winner. [applause].
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>> your life and work inspires to give meaning to the words never again. [applause]. >> i wish i could promise you that the lessons of history have been learned. i can only urge the leaders of the world not to repeat the mistakes of the past. it is not the sacrifice the future for the presence. not to ignore aggression in the hopes of gaining a piece but i can guarantee you this. the days when the jewish
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people remain passive in the face of genocidal enemies those days are over. [applause]. we are no longer scattered among the nations and powerless to defend ourselves. we restored our sovereignty and our ancient home. and the soldiers have boundless courage. for the first time in a hundred generations we, the jewish people can defend ourselves.
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this is why as prime minister of israel i can promise you one more thing. even if israel has to stand alone israel will stand. [applause]. but i know israel does not stand alone. i know america stands with israel and i know you stand with israel.
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[applause]. >> you stand with israel because you know the story of israel is not only the story of the jewish people, but the human spirit that refuses again and again to saw come to history's hearth. facing me right up there in the gallery, over looking all of us in this chamber is the image of moses. moses lead our people from slavery to the gates of the promise land. and before the people of israel entered the land of israel. moses gave us a message that
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is still the resolve for thousands of years. i leave you with his message today. be strong and res -- resolute neither fear nor dread them. may israel and america always stand together strong and resolute. may we neither fear nor dread the challenges ahead. may we face the future with confidence, strength and hope. may god bless the state of israel and may god bless the united states of america. [applause]. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu speaking to a joint session of congress
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and speaking for about 40 minutes interrupted by applause roughly 40 times. many of them as you can see here standing ovations by lawmakers from both parties some one or the other, but interrupted nonetheless. in a methodical way netanyahu lays out the speech. he talked about iran's support of terrorism throughout the middle east saying iran as goons in gazas and lackeys in lebenon. the sten tau cals of terror -- tenticles of terror are reaching throughout the region. the shiite militias in iraq and rebels in yemen. iran may be helping to fight isis, but in this case, quote, the enemy of your enemy is your enemy. turning to the u.s.-iran nuclear negotiations he said he would be dealing classified details -- he would not talk about the details of the negotiations, but talk about what is out there. he added quote, you can
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google it. >> thank you america. thank you. >> he continues to thank the applause there wrapping up his speech. i'm pretty sure he is done. yes, he is. netanyahu says it doesn't block iran's path to the nuclear bomb, it paves the path. no deal is better han this deal. iran already plays a game of, quote, hide and cheat with inspectors. he brought up the holocaust and mentioned the survivor in the chamber. he said never again. and he promised israel would stand alone if it has to in this case. we've heard from the israeli leader and we will hear from the panel about what he said and how he said it and if it will achieve its stated goal. a special look back at the netanyahu address to congress continues.
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back in the studio with our panel. tharls? charles? >> i thought it was an extraordinary speech and it had two sharp messages. the essence of the critique of the deal is what the israelis are worried about and what the israelis think is utterly intolerable.
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that is the idea that after about 10 years with all of the restrictions removed with their sanctions lifted and iran's economy restored they would have unlimited ability to develop a uranium enrichment. he says as long as this regime is in charge that would be cat cat -- catastrophic. he said we wouldn't like. it but there are ways to live with it. i think what he means is if they were kept under some kind of restriction indefinitely until the regime either altered its behavior or was changed the israelis would accept that. that is an interesting offering. the interesting thing he said was at the end and i think you
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can understand why he came. he said we will act alone meaning he is telling the congress if this deal is enacted or if it goes through we reserve the right to attack iran on our own. i think what he did here is he tried to show the world that he would have the support of the congress if that happened. we know the administration has been discouraging that and going against it and in someway sabotaging the attack. he got a standing ovation when he said israel would act alone. he said i came here to show the world we might have to act and if we do, we want to have the support of the congress and he wanted to show the world that he did. those were two important elements. >> he apologized that the speech has become so political. speaking of that, 50 plus democrats didn't show up. you wouldn't obviously know that from the chamber as it
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was packed. democrats and republicans stood up in standing ovations. a democrat from vermont pointed out no single individual has done more harm -- more to harm the vitally important u.s.-israeli relationship than benjamin netanyahu. that was one democrat's perception. he didn't attend the speech. what about the whole back and forth and the political over tones? >> they moved from the speech to the deal. you don't hear this conversation among democrats even who attended the speech that they ruined the relationship. they didn't like he made the speech without the speaker's knowledge. they are not using the rhetoric. going forward the prime minister made a compelling case against the sunset clause. it rewards bad behavior.
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he wants the conditions, but the problem is the pat response to all of this has been for weeks you know what if we just crank up the sanctions they are just going to crank up the bomb. democrats, some of which didn't go to the speech but feel the deal is bad. and the republican allies of israel were trying to blunt a bad deal came out with a case for how you kept them at the table and how you counter the administration's line which is more sanctions and no deal equals a bomb even factor. >> no matter what is said this was a powerful address that clearly resonated with the supporters of israel as he makes the case against iran. >> i think he did two things that were very interesting and i thought he would do in the detail he did it. he went after the deal. he would try to go methodically, point, by point, by point. it dated back 4,000 years.
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he said this could be one of those. the iranian terror attacks took american lives. what that did was now the administration can't make it an argument about a specific class and a specific deal. -- a specific clause and deal. they have to say did he condone terror against the u.s.? is this broader than a nuclear deal? that shifts the debate in a creative way. i was surprised he did it in the helping and detail he did it with? >> secretary carrie right now -- secretary kerry is right now doing the deal. >> they have to explain the deal before it is complete. and that is an achievement on the part of the israelis and the opponents of the deal. explain to us why it is going to be good before you sign your name on. it. >> charles, ab, thank you so much. >> don't go away.
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we are not done on the special recap of the prime minister's speech. final thoughts after one last timeout.
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thank you for watching our special look back at the address to congress by benjamin netanyahu. he was forceful and passionate and telling lawmakers that an emerging agreement between the u.s. and its allies and iran would virtually guarantee tehran obtains a nuclear weapon. they have proven time again they cannot be trusted and wants to destroy israel. that's our program for tonight. please watch special report at 6:00 p.m. eastern for the latest on the negotiations with iran and how they may affect israel. that and all of the news in the u.s. and around the world.
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